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"For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body--whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free--and we were all given the one Spirit to drink."
All has been baptised in Gods Spirit when believed, indwelled, Bible, Gods Word, clearly says only one faith one baptism , not two!!!
"one Lord, one faith, one baptism;"
In earlier Biblically early days around 2000 years ago it were diffrent Jesus, Gods Son were not yet glorified:
"By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified."
, and they were only baptised in Jesus name, without the Holy Spirit relised, today we are baptised in Jesus name and the Father and Holy Spirit:
19"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
, and Today is Jesus Glorified, and as thief on cross who were baptised in Gods Spirit indwelled, he rose with Christ http://biblehub.com/luke/23-43.htm, but never spoke in tounges
Jesus were troubled in Spirit in Heart, translated badly but passage most correct:
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32 Therefore, when Mary came where Jesus was, she saw Him, and fell at His feet, saying to Him, “Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died.” 33 When Jesus therefore saw her weeping, andthe Jews who came with her also weeping, He was deeply moved in spirit and [h]was troubled, 34 and said, “Where have you laid him?” They *said to Him, “Lord, come and see.” 35 Jesus wept. 36 So the Jews were saying, “See how He loved him!” 37 But some of them said, “Could not this man, who opened the eyes of the blind man, [i]have kept this man also from dying?”
38 So Jesus, again being deeply moved within, *came to the tomb. Now it was a cave, and a stone was lying against it. 39 Jesus *said, “Remove the stone.” Martha, the sister of the deceased, *said to Him, “Lord, by this time [j]there will be a stench, for he has been dead four days.” 40 Jesus *said to her, “Did I not say to you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?” 41 So they removed the stone. Then Jesusraised His eyes, and said, “Father, I thank You that You have heard Me. 42 I knew that You always hear Me; but because of the [k]people standing around I said it, so that they may believe that You sent Me.” 43 When He had said these things, He cried out with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come forth.” 44 The man who had died came forth, bound hand and foot with wrappings, and his face was wrapped around with a cloth. Jesus *said to them, “Unbind him, and let him go.”
45 Therefore many of the Jews who came to Mary, and saw what He had done, believed in Him. 46 But some of them went to the Pharisees and told them the things which Jesus had done."
and Jesus never forces him speak in tounges in order to have evidence of Holy Spirit the false converts claim...
Evidence is Biblically lifestyle seperated form World in daily repentive state daily in love for Christ, Jesus, Gods Son, of Bible, God Word.
One baptism one faith, does all speak in tounges Bible says no!
"Do we all have the gift of healing? Do we all have the ability to speak in unknown languages? Do we all have the ability to interpret unknown languages? Of course not!"
Thief rose with Christ to heaven/paradise http://biblehub.com/luke/23-43.htm on cross, and he never spoke in tounges, nor did Jesus, who made sounds by his spirit, in one instance but it were not tounges. (This represent the Christ belivers of our age, as Christ is glorified and his Spirit realeased:
In earlier Biblically early days around 2000 years ago it were diffrent Jesus, Gods Son were not yet glorified:
"By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified."
There is no such thing as two baptism, its deception of unbiblically evils, and all few 8 Noa Biblically daily reborn believers is baptised indwelled by Gods Spirit upon conversion and Biblicallly daily repentive lifestyle in love for Christ, Gods Son of Bible, Gods Word.
Tounges real human languages is a sign for unbelivers, how come you might ask, its because the tounge speaker can preach the Gospel on their language, so they understand, and for the unbelivers its a sign, why? because the tounge speaker did not himself know their human language:
http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/14-22.htm (However some prophecies might be so vital so even shown for unbelivers, but they might not understand, but maybe believe some of it, of the Biblically tested few true prophecies of our time, etc). However tonges of gibberish, and no able to translate shall never be spoken of infront of other people, or unbelievers, unless, anyone can translate it so congregations builds up, the tounge speaker shall be silent infront of others, and speak tounges between self and God of Bible, Gods Word, alone, Bible, Gods Word, says.
"Prophecy and Tongues
…3But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation. 4One who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but one who prophesies edifies the church. 5Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues (wish Paul did but it is not possible according to Bible, Gods word http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/12-30.htm), but even more that you would prophesy; and greater is one who prophesies than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edifying.…"
Tounges also as all other signs and wonders must be Biblically tested, and Biblically decerned by an interpreter if tounge speaker self do not have interpeter gift, so one can know its from God of Bible, Gods Word, Trinity Yahweh, and not from Satan, as most signs and wonders 99,9 percent are of today... Most is unbiblically evils as its never follow the Biblically rules, or makes us more Biblically obedient to Gods laws and commands and commandments in Bible, Gods Word, but make most more obedient to lawnessness and unbiblically evils and unbiblically false doctrines of evil men and Satan and traditions of unbiblically evils etc.
Be blessed see exist diffrent fillings and only those in the biblically doctrine and faith is born again all have not same anointing of the few true belivers as it exist diffrent fillings of holy spirit but all of the few true belivers in the biblically doctrine and faith has been reborn and have gods spirit inside of them, in daily repentive state in love for christ daily in biblically faith, etc.
All Biblically signs and gifts is valied for today also none have ceased, as long as its Biblically after Bible, Gods Words, instructions.
All Biblically signs and gifts is valied for today also none have ceased, as long as its Biblically after Bible, Gods Words, instructions.
For Biblically true doctrines keep Bible, Gods Word.
Yahweh true of Bible, Gods word and Spirit shown this here:
"We are witnesses today that there are many possessed persons in the churches. Some speak in tongues and even prophesy. Only those with the Spirit of God can discern these fellows. But we are here discussing the agents of Satan in the churches."
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“Come out from among them? and be ye separate,” (2 Cor. 6:17)
Some very few Biblical true tounges of today is true, but so few they are..
IF THE TOUNGES IS NOT BIBLICAL TRUE AFTER BIBLE, AND ITS RULES AND STANDARS THEN ITS FALSE DECEPTIVE OR OF EVIL SPIRITS OR EVIL MEN OR MADE UP, AND SPEAKING IN STOUNGES IS NOT? A SIGN OF HAVING THE HOLY SPIRIT, ALL TRUE REBORN BELIEVERS ARE BAPTISED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT UPON CONVERSION!
TOUNGES MUST BE TOTALLY AFTER BIBLICAL RULES STANDARDS OR FALSE. TRUE YAHWEH AND CHRIST HAVE WARNED IN BIBLE, THE WORD OF GOD, THE DANGER OF SIGN SEEKERS...
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We have to confess our sins and ask God and Jesus for forgivness of them, and ask those people we hurted, of forgivness, if we can find them all, those who is possible to find, of those we wronged, ask them of forgivness, and then turn away from our sins and forsake them, and rely, trust on Jesus Christ, Gods Son, and have faith in him, AND ACCEPT HIM DAILY AS OUR PERSONAL LORD AND MASTER, AND SAVIOUR, RULER DAILY OVER OUR LIVES, we shall recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38, vital to be water baptised, but it do not save, only Jesus Christ saves beeing baptised in him, and his Spirit and name and Father Matthew 28:19 saves, as Jesus Spirit also is the living water John 7:39, a new beliver gets in Spirit baptised/indwelled in (John 4:13-14 and John 7:37-39) see more here: http://www.biblebelievers.com/jmelton/acts2.html (SEE ONLY LISTED LINKS, BIBLICALLY TESTED TRUE, WANT NO ONE DECIVED, SEE ONLY LISTED THINGS, ITS BIBLICALLY TESTED TRUE) and
Water baptism do not save initself, nor do toddler human water baptism saves, human toddlers and human children under age of accountabilty, before they know good from wrong, or good from evil, before they choosed unbiblical evils and sinned, are already saved, as they have never sinned.
The dying THIEF AT CROSS NEXT TO JESUS CHRIST, GODS SON was not WATER baptized NOR DID HE SPEAK IN TOUNGES (More about tounges Click Here), yet Jesus saved him (Luke 23:42-43, human Thief at Cross truelly in his Heart REPENTED of all his sins, and had no TIME, to DAILY live BIBLICALLY in LOVE for CHRIST, God Son because waiting FAST IMMEDIATELY DEATH IN LESS THEN 1 TO 2 DAYS AROUND MAX in torture at the CROSS, but for ALL of US the REST HUMANS, that LIVES that not awaits FAST IMMEDIATELY DEATH IN LESS THEN 1 TO 2 DAYS AROUND MAX, DAILY FAITH and LIVE BIBLICALLY DAILY LIFE APPLIES FOR ALL THE FEW FEW FEW 8 NOA REBORNS CONVERTED BELIVERS):, and John wrote that we are washed in the BLOOD of Christ (Rev. 1:5). By faith in the blood of Jesus Christ one is saved (Rom. 3:25), but to remain in Biblically saving faith, we also need to daily live Biblically, more below about this.
Water baptism only follows this faith as an important outward step of obedience. And http://carm.org/should-we-baptize-name-father-son-and-holy-spirit-or-name-jesus (SEE ONLY LISTED LINKS, BIBLICALLY TESTED TRUE, WANT NO ONE DECIVED, SEE ONLY LISTED THINGS, ITS BIBLICALLY TESTED TRUE),TRUTH ABOUT BAPTISM ALSO BIBLICALLY ALL BEEN BAPTISED IN HOLY SPIRIT INDWELLED UPON CONVERSION, OF THE FEW TRUE BELIVERS THAT EXIST, NO TOUNGES OR SIGNS EVIDENCE, JUST A TOTAL CHANGED LIFE, CONFORMED TO GOD SPIRIT AND BIBLE, GODS WORD, AND SEPERATION FROM THE WORLD AND THE UNGODLY AND FALLEN CHRISTIANITY, AND FALSE SISTERS AND BROTHERS 2 Corinthians 11:26, ETC, BE BLESSED. FIX DOT AND SLASH CLOSER AND LINK WORK, IF LINK NOT LOAD RELOAD SOME TIMES: alturl . com / 53z6j AND GOD BLESS LETS JUST REMBER, JUDGE BIBLICALLY RIGHT TEST DECERN EVERYTHING AND ALL ETC: YOU MUST DIFFER BETWEEN GODLY AFTER BIBLE, AND GODS SPIRIT JUDGE, DECERN TEST, VS WORLDY OWN WILL NOT AFTER BIBLE NOR HIS SPIRIT OR LIVE AND DO BIBLE, BY GODS TRUE BIBLE HOLY SPIRIT, IN LOVE, AND BY OUR WILL DAILY LIVE OUT, TEACH SOUND BIBLICAL DOCTRINE JUDGE ERROR ETC. FIX DOT AND SLASH CLOSER AND LINK WORK, IF LINK NOT LOAD RELOAD SOME TIMES: alturl . com / 53z6j GOD BLESS)
GOD BLESS LETS JUST REMBER, JUDGE BIBLICALLY RIGHT TEST DECERN EVERYTHING AND ALL ETC:
YOU MUST DIFFER BETWEEN GODLY AFTER BIBLE, AND GODS SPIRIT JUDGE, DECERN TEST, VS WORLDY OWN WILL NOT AFTER BIBLE NOR HIS SPIRIT OR LIVE AND DO BIBLE, BY GODS TRUE BIBLE HOLY SPIRIT, IN LOVE, AND BY OUR WILL DAILY LIVE OUT, TEACH SOUND BIBLICAL DOCTRINE JUDGE ERROR ETC.
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Warning heed just be cautious regarding all things that has to do with Signs and Wonders all things must be Biblical true tested and decerned and judged, and trust only in the Word of God Bible, and Gods spirit in his few true reborns, as few as in days of Noa 8.
I love Mary K Baxter but now some grave suspicions have arised about her because of this video above, Gold teeth gold things..Yahweh and Bible and his spirit approved this warning to show fix link dot closer:
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Mary K Baxters old Hell Vision and Heaven Vision I Believe is Biblically true, and tested verified, just in our day, Mary K Baxter is decived with Unbiblical Gold Teeth and Gold fillings etc.
More detail on this later.
Also Biblically tounges is languages humans, and Heavenly language, but if Heaven language, tounge speaker shall only speak for self and God if no one can translate, for congregation.
All things must be done in order and one speak at one time, not as today all tounges speak unknown languages without any interpet and all speak in confusion and all in each others mouth, thats not after Bible, Gods Words, rules, and is of men and Satan and demmonic and evil Spirits...
Tounges must be Biblically tested and decerned and interpreter must test the tounges to see what they say is praising Trinity Yahweh, God of Satan....
If none can interpet tounge speaker must be silent Bible, Gods Word, says and only speak between himself and God of Bible, Gods Word. All Biblically signs is valied today and forever until end of universe.
But Prophecy is greater gift then tounges, why because it builds up congregation, tounges only build up congregation is Biblically tested true and someone can interpet otherwise its useless, and only again for the tounge speaker self and God in private speaking.
Vital link more what true Biblically true God said through true prophet and messenger Jeff Kieffer about this Biblically true about tounges etc below:
Its forbidden to speak unless someone can interpet, Bible, says tounge speaker then shall be silent as congregation is not buildt up if none can interpet. 99,9 percent of all signs and wonders of today is unbiblically evils and deceptions, including tounges, and evidence of baptism of holy spirit tounge speaking 2 baptism is unbiblically and false doctrine of evil men and maybe demons, only one bapttism one faith not two!!!
"one Lord, one faith, one baptism;"
Another missconception of evil men and so on maybe doctrines of demons is, Holy tounges is perfect prayer its not...
Not Holy Spirit that prays but the human our Spirit prays;
"For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful."
Pray in all times does not mean pray in tounges, as we do not know what we say, unless interpet gift and Biblically tested tounge true of God and not of Satan.
"God, whom I serve in my spirit in preaching the gospel of his Son, is my witness how constantly I remember you
God knows how often I pray for you. Day and night I bring you and your needs in prayer to God, whom I serve with all my heart by spreading the Good News about his Son."
http://biblehub.com/romans/1-9.htm
http://biblehub.com/romans/1-9.htm
Pray in Spirit means Pray in our Hearts, by all requests, means we know what we pray for, witch we do not know if pray in an unknown tounge without interpetation, meaning pray in Spirit means not pray in tounges, but pray in heart in all diffrent requests, and so on so we know what we pray for, God hears the broken hearted:
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Psalm 34:18 New King James Version (NKJV)
18 The Lord is near to those who have a broken heart,
And saves such as have a contrite spirit."
And saves such as have a contrite spirit."
"And pray in the Spirit (Biblically Newborn Heart 1 John 3:21 and Newborn nature and pray without ceasing 1 Thessalonians 5:17) on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord's people."
Another reason praying in Spirit/Heart its not tounges is all true 8 Biblically noa reborns daily repentive Biblically doers in love daily for christ Gods Son of Bible, Gods Word, cannot speak tounges:
"Do we all have the gift of healing? Do we all have the ability to speak in unknown languages? Do we all have the ability to interpret unknown languages? Of course not!"
"21Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God; 22and whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do the things that are pleasing in His sight.…" (Accordence, to our newborn nature, newborn Heart, and daily Biblically living in repentive daily state in love for True Christ, Gods Son daily, of Bible Gods Word, and in Accordence to Bible, Gods Word, as whole counsel of Gods Word applies and not a single verse but wholesume teaching 1 Timothy 6:3-5 of whole Bible, Gods Word, both new and old, and Gods Will, and Spirit in that we recieve whatever whatever we ask, if we live Biblically Daily and keep his commandments in daily repentive state in love for True Christ, Gods Son daily, of Bible Gods Word).
http://biblehub.com/1_john/3-21.htm
Of the true Biblically Elects Belivers and 8 Noa Bride belivers and Elijah group, with its _Elijah leader belivers, this applies of Bible, Gods word, the true bloodname congregation of Trinity Yahweh, God of Bible, Gods Word, his body, very few truelly belong to this Christ Body, as very few is true Christ followers of todays claimings to be "Christians, of those false christians withe their fallen babylon lukewarm wordly 99,9 percent churches with manmade ideas and traditions unbiblically evils doctrines etc, many of those still have idols, all things that takes more time then meditating on Gods word, and live for God preach and do gods Will and live obey Bible, Gods word, and daily live in daily repentive state, is considered an idol..."
Of the true Biblically Elects Belivers and 8 Noa Bride belivers and Elijah group, with its _Elijah leader belivers, this applies of Bible, Gods word, the true bloodname congregation of Trinity Yahweh, God of Bible, Gods Word, his body, very few truelly belong to this Christ Body, as very few is true Christ followers of todays claimings to be "Christians, of those false christians withe their fallen babylon lukewarm wordly 99,9 percent churches with manmade ideas and traditions unbiblically evils doctrines etc, many of those still have idols, all things that takes more time then meditating on Gods word, and live for God preach and do gods Will and live obey Bible, Gods word, and daily live in daily repentive state, is considered an idol..."
This below applies to only the approved ones in Christ, by gods word, Bible, biblically living and the Spirit, of god in them, the Holy Spirit:
Of the true Biblically Elects Belivers and 8 Noa Bride belivers and Elijah group, with its _Elijah leader belivers, this applies of Bible, Gods word, the true bloodmade congregation or church of Trinity Yahweh, God of Bible, Gods Word, his body, very few truelly belong to this Christ Body, God lives in them:
TRINITY GOD, OF BIBLE, GODS WORD DO NOT HAS ANY FAVORITE BETWEEN HUMAN RICH AND POOR, NOR RESPECTOR OF PERSONS IN SOCIETY HIGH EDUCATION JOB OR LOW OR LITTLE INCOME OR HIGH INCOME FROM WORDLY JOBS OR NO WORDLY JOB BUT WE MUST WORK FOR CHRIST IN LOVE FOR CHRIST OF BIBLE, GODS WORD, CANNOT BE LAZY REFERING TO CONVERTED BELIVERS FOLLOWERS AFTER CHRIST OR ETC TRUE, IN THAT ASPECT TRINITY GOD OF BIBLE, GODS WORD NOT RESPECTOR OR PERSONS, BUT GOD TRINITY YAHWEH, OF BIBLE, GODS WORD HAVE FAVORITES: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%202%3A14&version=NIV;NASB;NRSVA;NABRE, GOD TRINITY YAHWEH, OF BIBLE, GODS WORD HAVE FAVORITES: HIS DISCIPLES/FOLLOWERS THOSE WHO DO HIS WILL AND DAILY LIVE BIBLICALLY 1 John 2:3-6 AND:
AND John 14:15-31 AND John 14:19-26 AND Galatians 2:20 AND Proverbs 7:2-3 AND Leviticus 26:2-3 AS WHOLE BIBLE, GODS WORD IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO LIVE HEED BY, OLD TESTAMENT AND NEW TESTAMENT, THE NEW TESTAMENT KEEPT ALL BIBLICAL YAHWEH OF ALL LIFE AND UNIVERSE BIBLE, GODS WORD, COMMANDS AND COMMANDMENTS, AND GODS LAWS, Luke 1:6 AND Romans 2:13:
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Spiritual Gifts
1Now, dear brothers and sisters,a regarding your question about the special abilities the Spirit gives us. I don’t want you to misunderstand this. 2You know that when you were still pagans, you were led astray and swept along in worshiping speechless idols. 3So I want you to know that no one speaking by the Spirit of God will curse Jesus, and no one can say Jesus is Lord, except by the Holy Spirit.
4There are different kinds of spiritual gifts, but the same Spirit is the source of them all. 5There are different kinds of service, but we serve the same Lord. 6God works in different ways, but it is the same God who does the work in all of us.
7A spiritual gift is given to each of us so we can help each other. 8To one person the Spirit gives the ability to give wise adviceb; to another the same Spirit gives a message of special knowledge.c 9The same Spirit gives great faith to another, and to someone else the one Spirit gives the gift of healing. 10He gives one person the power to perform miracles, and another the ability to prophesy. He gives someone else the ability to discern whether a message is from the Spirit of God or from another spirit. Still another person is given the ability to speak in unknown languages,d while another is given the ability to interpret what is being said. 11It is the one and only Spirit who distributes all these gifts. He alone decides which gift each person should have.
One Body with Many Parts
12The human body has many parts, but the many parts make up one whole body. So it is with the body of Christ. 13Some of us are Jews, some are Gentiles,e some are slaves, and some are free. But we have all been baptized into one body by one Spirit, and we all share the same Spirit.f
14Yes, the body has many different parts, not just one part. 15If the foot says, “I am not a part of the body because I am not a hand,” that does not make it any less a part of the body. 16And if the ear says, “I am not part of the body because I am not an eye,” would that make it any less a part of the body? 17If the whole body were an eye, how would you hear? Or if your whole body were an ear, how would you smell anything?
18But our bodies have many parts, and God has put each part just where he wants it. 19How strange a body would be if it had only one part! 20Yes, there are many parts, but only one body. 21The eye can never say to the hand, “I don’t need you.” The head can’t say to the feet, “I don’t need you.”
22In fact, some parts of the body that seem weakest and least important are actually the most necessary. 23And the parts we regard as less honorable are those we clothe with the greatest care. So we carefully protect those parts that should not be seen, 24while the more honorable parts do not require this special care. So God has put the body together such that extra honor and care are given to those parts that have less dignity. 25This makes for harmony among the members, so that all the members care for each other. 26If one part suffers, all the parts suffer with it, and if one part is honored, all the parts are glad.
27All of you together are Christ’s body, and each of you is a part of it. 28Here are some of the parts God has appointed for the church:
first are apostles,
second are prophets,
third are teachers,
then those who do miracles,
those who have the gift of healing,
those who can help others,
those who have the gift of leadership,
those who speak in unknown languages.
29Are we all apostles? Are we all prophets? Are we all teachers? Do we all have the power to do miracles? 30Do we all have the gift of healing? Do we all have the ability to speak in unknown languages? Do we all have the ability to interpret unknown languages? Of course not! 31So you should earnestly desire the most helpful gifts.
But now let me show you a way of life that is best of all.":
"1If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing. 3If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it;a but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing."
1 Corinthians 13.
THERE ALSO DO EXIST TRUE GODLY HUMILITY AFTER BIBLE, GODS WORD BUT BIBLE, GODS WORD ALSO WARNS ABOUT? THE FALSE UNGODLY HUMILITY Colossians 2:18 AND Colossians 2:23.
THERE EXIST GODLY AFTER BIBLE, GODS WORD, BOASTING AND GODLY PRIDEFULLNESS AND GODLY RIGHTOUSS ANGER, BUT WE MUST SEPERATE BETWEEN THE GODLY AFTER BIBLE AND THE UNGODLY: FIX DOT CLOSER AND LINK WILL WORK:
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GOD BLESS.Pray to be covered in Christ name and blood (and in all we do daily) for protection before seeing anything or reading anything daily and in all we do on a daily basis, and daily live Biblically, in daily repentive state in love for Christ, Gods Son.
Important you read this whole blogpost all text below as Trinity Yahweh, God true of Bible, Gods Word, Creator of all life and Universe, warns about this with tounges and more stuff et:
http://www.bibleheadquarters.org/kevin/DoYouHaveToSpeakinTonguestobeSaved.html
There are many churches that follow the doctrine that you must speak on tongues to be saved and filled with the Holy Spirit. I find that not only to be Biblically incorrect but also to be placing a spiritual bondage on people. A friend of mine that attended one of these denominations recently seen the error of this teaching and left the church. Below is his letter to the pastor and those in the congregation. I could not put it in better words than he so aptly did. I think his letter covers the Biblical grounds that prove this doctrine to be not only false but heretical. Being a Pentecostal all of my Christian life, I am submitting this letter from a brother in Christ to my "oneness" Pentecostal brethren, whom I love dearly. The intent of this letter is not to shame, belittle, or put down any church or denomination, but rather to educate, inform and help fellow Pentecostals understand what they could be doing to precious sheep within their fold. The following letter was written by a brother in the Lord that went through a very heart wrenching experience while attempting to be baptized in the Holy Spirit. The church he was involved with led him to believe that if he didn't speak in tongues, that he was not born again. Having an honest heart, this young man, 21 yrs of age, would not bow to the pressure to mimic or fake this precious gift of the Holy Spirit, but rather honestly ask Jesus for real thing. When the gift was not manifested in his Christian experience, he had nothing left to do but go into his bible and read the truth, and face the tough decision to leave the church. The following is his letter: Dear Brothers and Sisters, I am writing to you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, in whom I give all praise and thanks. I would like to tell you why I can no longer be a part of the "Assemblies of The Lord Jesus Christ." The Lord has been trying to show me something for a long time, and I can no longer put it aside. Having brought this to my pastor first, I feel at liberty to now bring it to the church body. Please understand that I do not think anything of myself. Only through Jesus can I know anything. These are the things the Lord has shown me. Please study them out and pray that God would show you whether they are true. I will not ask you to receive anything that is not found in Scripture. First Corinthians chapter 12 is entirely focused on the spiritual gifts, and how those gifts are to be divided as members of the body of Christ. After listing the nine gifts in verse 8-10, verse 11 tells us that the gifts are to be divided to every man as God wills. The gift of tongues is simply one of those gifts. We are in error by telling people they must receive that one gift in order to receive the Holy Ghost and be saved. Paul has something to say about this error in verses 14-19: "14 For the body is not one member, but many. 15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 19 And if they were all one member, where were the body?" Keep in mind that Paul is referencing the parts of the human body to how the gifts are to be members of Christ's body. Look at verse 15. We are doing exactly what Paul said not to do. We say "Because I do not have the gifts of tongues, I am not of the body of Christ." Is it not obvious that we are missing so many of the gifts in our churches? We need those other members so that the body can be edified. If we are all one member, where is the body? Now in verses 27-30, Paul says this: "27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. 28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?" In verse 28, Paul lists a number of the members of the body. I do not think it was Paul's intention to list every single member, but his real point is found in verses 29-30. "Are all apostles? are all prophets?…do all speak with tongues?" The answer is clearly 'no.' He even goes on to say "But covet earnestly the best gifts." He also says in Chapter 14 verse 5 "I wish that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret that the church may receive edifying." I have never once heard prophecy come from my local church. But then, how could we receive it if we place all emphasis on tongues? Now, we all know how the "Apostolic" doctrine explains this. They teach us that there is a difference between the gift of tongues and "the evidence of tongues when receiving the Spirit." This could make everything fit together the way they want it to, except for one thing: It is not in the Bible! I challenge anyone to find that doctrine in the Holy Word of God. If it were in there, I would publicly repent before all. However, the entire doctrine of tongues being the one and only evidence of the Spirit depends on that scripture being found. After all, Paul said more than once that not everyone speaks in tongues. Also look at Romans 11:29: "29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance." Once you have been given a gift from God, it will not be taken away. You never lose it. How then could we speak in tongues once, and then never again? The gift of tongues is simply the gift of tongues. There are diversities of operation, (prayer, singing, a message for interpretation…) but they are all still the gift. This is a very dangerous doctrine to cling to. Not only does it make it easy for a person to fake it one time and every one assume he or she has received, but also, the ones who truly do receive tongues may not realize the fullness of what they have received. You become stuck between two false teachings. Either you say, "Everyone receives the gift of tongues when baptized in the Spirit," and contradict what Paul said. Or you say "There is a difference between having the gift and just speaking in tongues when baptized in the Spirit," and face being unscriptural. Why must we make things harder than the Lord intended? I agree that tongues can be one evidence, but not the only. Yes, on the day of Pentecost they all spoke with tongues as the Spirit fell. This is obviously the gift that God desired to be shown to the multitude (who all spoke different languages). That is not surprising since Paul states in 1st Corinthians 14:22 that tongues are not for a sign to them that believe, but to them that believe not. Tongues do not even edify the church unless there is an interpretation. However, if we wanted to rely on the day of Pentecost as our only example, why don't we read on in Acts 2:17-18. This is Peter speaking on the day of Pentecost just after they had received the Holy Ghost: "17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:" Do we not believe we are living in the last days? And if tongues were the only initial evidence of the Spirit isn't it odd that tongues wasn't even mentioned here? Search in the Bible for scripture that indicates a man must receive that gift before receiving any other. You will not find it. Another statement I've heard is "Everywhere in the book of Acts people spoke in tongues when filled with the Holy Spirit." This is not true. "31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness." Acts 4:31 "6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7 And all the men were about twelve." Acts 19:6-7 Did all twelve of these men speak in tongues and prophesy? Apply the teachings from Corinthians to the rest of the word, and it will take on a whole new meaning for you. Think back on all the people who went to the altar seeking the Holy Ghost, and did not receive tongues. Think of the coaxing and leading that was done to those people (including myself). "Yield to God! Loosen your lips! Say the first thing that comes to mind! Say hallelujah over and over!" These are all things I heard in my times at the altar. Compare this to the way people received His Spirit when the Apostles prayed for them. It is ridiculous and absurd. And through all that, I never once spoke in tongues. Now for you who do speak in tongues, it will be harder for you to receive this. Some will say "This can't be true. Look at how many people in my church speak in tongues!" Is this any big mystery? You are losing the ones who don't receive that gift. I should know, I am one of them. Not only that but when you are taught to seek after only one gift, what else are you open to? I hate to think of all the people we lost that would have went on to be workers of miracles, or healings, or prophets. And all because they didn't speak in tongues. I do not deny that a few of the other gifts are used from time to time, sparingly. How edified we would be if the word of knowledge or prophecy were used as much as tongues are! I want you to know that I write this out of love. Love for you and for our Lord Jesus Christ. I want only the best things for you. Seeing how hard it was for me to receive this after only two and a half years in this denomination, I can imagine how hard it would be having been taught this your entire life. There will always be this problem in denominational churches. No fresh revelation can be received because you are chained to the association's doctrine. They could kick you out of their "club," make you pay back all the money they gave you, and take away the comfort and security of being under their "umbrella." I am telling you that GOD can give you all of these things, and more abundantly. "Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and all these things will be added into you." Instead we tend to seek earthly things hoping they will draw people in. Think of how many people would be drawn in from just one miraculous healing! You couldn't build a building big enough. I love every single one of you and do not wish to break fellowship with you. However, I must leave your assembly in order to be fruitful for God. First Corinthians 1:10 "Now I beseech you, brethren by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment." Feel free to contact me if you wish to talk about this further, or if you just want to fellowship. I look forward to hearing from you all. To God be the Glory, Jeff Kieffer" Source: http://www.bibleheadquarters.org/kevin/DoYouHaveToSpeakinTonguestobeSaved.html BIBLE, GODS WORD IS VERY CLEAR TOUNGES ALWAYS MUST BE INTERPRET, AND IF NONE CAN INTERPRET TOUNGE SPEAKER SHALL BE SILENT. ALSO IN THIS THAT TOUNGES IS A SIGN TO UNBELIEVER ITS MEANT REAL HUMAN LANGUAGES IS SPOKEN ON UNBELIVERS LANGUAGES WITHOUT TOUNGE SPEAKER KNOWS THEIR LANGUAGES, BUT WITH HELP OF GOD TOUNGE SPEAKER PREACH THE GOSPEL BIBLICALLY TRUE TO THE UNBELIVER ON HIS OR HER REAL HUMAN LANGUAGE. HOWEVER UNKNOWN TOUNGES SHALL NOT BE SPOKEN EVER TO UNBELIEVERS WHY, BECAUSE THEY WILL THINK YOU ARE MAD: "Even so, if unbelievers or people who don't understand these things come into your church meeting and hear everyone speaking in an unknown language, they will think you are crazy." http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/14-23.htm BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE FOOLISHNESS TO THOSE WHO NOT UNDERSTAND IT, IT MUST BE INTERPRET TOUNGES OR OTHERWISE TOUNGE SPEAKER SHALL BE SILENT AND ONLY SPEAK TOUNGES BETWEEN SELF AND GOD ALONE IN PRIVATE. TOUNGES IS ALSO NOT ALWAYS PRAYERS AS SOME FALSE UNBIBLICALLY TEACHERS IS SAYING, BUT CAN ALSO BE MESSAGES FROM TRUE TRINITY YAHWEH, GOD OF BIBLE, GODS WORD.ALSO NOT ALL CAN SPEAK IN TOUNGES, IT DOES NOT MEAN NOT ALL IN CONGREGATION CAN SPEAK IN TOUNGES, IT MEANS NOT ALL BELIVERS GET THAT GIFT AS THE HOLY SPIRIT GIVES IT GIFTS AS IT PLEASES DIFFRENT TO EACH MEMBER OF THE BELIVERS 8 FEW FEW FEW TRUE 8 NOA ONES CHRIST FOLLOWERS TRUE OF BIBLE, GODS WORD, ALSO THERE ARE ONLY 1 BAPTISM: "For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body--whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free--and we were all given the one Spirit to drink." http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/12-13.htm All has been baptised in Gods Spirit when believed, indwelled, Bible, Gods Word, clearly says only one faith one baptism , not two!!! "one Lord, one faith, one baptism;" http://biblehub.com/ephesians/4-5.htm NOT TWO MORE ABOUT THIS IN LINK AT END BACK TO ORIGINAL ARTICLE. ALL MUST BE DONE IN ORDER AND DECENTY, IF ANYONE DOES NOT WANNA HEAR THE BIBLICALLY INSTRUCTIONS ABOUT GODS GIFTS AND BIBLICALLY RULES FOR TOUNGES AND PROPHECY ETC, THAT PERSON OR PERSONS SHALL BE IGNORED, BIBLE, GODS WORD SAYS HARD, 99,9 PERCENT OF ALL BELIVERS AND 99,9 PERCENT OF ALL THEIR CHURCHES IS FALLEN AND IS IN THAT ERROR: " Intelligibility in Worship
14 Follow the way of love and eagerly desiregifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy. 2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue[a] does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit. 3 But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening,encouraging and comfort.4 Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifiesthemselves, but the one who prophesiesedifies the church. 5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues,[b] but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues,[c]unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified.
6 Now, brothers and sisters, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?7 Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the pipe or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes? 8 Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? 9 So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air.10 Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning. 11 If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and the speaker is a foreigner to me.12 So it is with you. Since you are eager for gifts of the Spirit, try to excel in those that build up the church.
13 For this reason the one who speaks in a tongue should pray that they may interpret what they say.14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 15 So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my understanding; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my understanding.16 Otherwise when you are praising God in the Spirit, how can someone else, who is now put in the position of an inquirer,[d] say “Amen” to your thanksgiving,since they do not know what you are saying?17 You are giving thanks well enough, but no one else is edified.
18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.19 But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.
20 Brothers and sisters, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults. 21 In the Law it is written:
“With other tongues
and through the lips of foreigners I will speak to this people, but even then they will not listen to me, says the Lord.”[e]
22 Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy,however, is not for unbelievers but for believers.23 So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and inquirers or unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind?24 But if an unbeliever or an inquirer comes in while everyone is prophesying, they are convicted of sin and are brought under judgment by all, 25 as the secrets of their hearts are laid bare. So they will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, “God is really among you!”
Good Order in Worship
26 What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn,or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation.Everything must be done so that the church may be built up. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God.
29 Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said.30 And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop.31 For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged.32 The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. 33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people.
34 Women[f]should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.[g]
36 Or did the word of Godoriginate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached?37 If anyone thinks they are a prophet or otherwise gifted by the Spirit, let them acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord’s command. 38 But if anyone ignores this, they will themselves be ignored.[h]
39 Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eagerto prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. 40 But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way."
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SvaraRaderaImportant info to this article:
SvaraRaderahttps://www.allthingsfulfilled.com/when-was-christ-glorified/
And:
https://carm.org/what-is-the-baptism-of-fire
"When was Christ glorified? The New Testament
is very clear concerning when Christ was glorified.
It was not before, but after his ascension.
The facts of the case also demonstrate that it is
not Christ’s body that was the subject of glorification.
The glory of Christ is received at his coronation, after
he returns to heaven, not before. In John 7:39, Christ’s
glory results in the outpouringof the Holy Spirit. “
But this he spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those
believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was
not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.”
Now, from this text, we know that Jesus would send the Holy Spirit once he was glorified. Does that mean he was glorified when he rose from the dead? No, not at all.
On the road to Emmaus, the Lord said, “Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory? (Luke 24:26). Thus, after Jesus is raised from the dead, in his post resurrection body, he has not yet entered into his glory.
If it is argued that this his body is a glorious body because it has been raised from the dead. We are reminded of John 1:14, of which the apostles testify, “we beheld his glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.”
This text speaks of his earthly ministry. Thought it is doubtful that it has any reference to his physical outward appearance. His political and social rank was inglorious, despised and the cause of rejection.
When Was Christ Glorified?
For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich. (2 Cor. 8:3)
So, there is no more or less glory after than before. However, this is not the glory associated specifically with the eschatological end time as we demonstrate.
It is clear that Christ gave up his glory with the Father to experience the humiliation of being made lowly in the likeness of men.
In the garden of Gethsemane, he prayed, “Father, Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You…And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.” (John 17:1, 5).
Paul, writing to Timothy says, And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up in glory, (1 Tim. 3:16). Here again, we see that the scripture notes that Christ received glory at his ascension into heaven. See also Luke 24:51).
Peter affirms that the glory of Christ followed his suffering. “Searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when he testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow.” (1 Pet. 1:9).
He then states that God gave Christ glory after he was raised from the dead. ”Who through Him believe in God who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.” (1 Pet. 1:21).
Once again, we see that Christ is crowned with glory and honor. “But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for every one.” (Heb. 2:9)."
Be blessed all.
SvaraRaderaImportant info here also:
SvaraRaderahttp://backupwakeutobiblicaltruthblogbaker.blogspot.com/2015/05/vital-teachings-biblical-theory-shown.html
Be blessed all.
Tongues is real human languages or real Heavenly languages
SvaraRadera"If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal."
https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/13-1.htm
This is not gibberish bla bla of deceptive fake tongues of today 99,9 percent speak in unknown gibberish... No way that is real Heavenly languages of peace and order it is gibberish deceptive false tongues of confusion Not from the Lord Trinity Yahweh God of Bible Gods Word.
God is not the author of confusion but peace and order:
https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/14-33.htm
"Weymouth New Testament
In the same way the Spirit also helps us in our weakness; for we do not know what prayers to offer nor in what way to offer them. But the Spirit Himself pleads for us in yearnings that can find no words,"
https://biblehub.com/romans/8-26.htm
Pray to be covered in Christ name and blood (and in all we do daily) for protection before seeing anything or reading anything daily and in all we do on a daily basis, and daily live Biblically, in daily repentive state in love for Christ, Gods Son.
Please only see whats listed and nothing more of uploaders, as they might be decieved in other things.
Vital see only the Biblically tested listed true things and videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iz3hp3TbE0
"King James Version
But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness."
https://biblehub.com/kjv/2_timothy/2-16.htm
And:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r-nIIQmFz8
Yahweh true of Bible, Gods word and Spirit shown this here:
"We are witnesses today that there are many possessed persons in the churches. Some speak in tongues and even prophesy. Only those with the Spirit of God can discern these fellows. But we are here discussing the agents of Satan in the churches."
"
“Come out from among them? and be ye separate,” (2 Cor. 6:17)
Some very few Biblical true tounges of today is true, but so few they are..
IF THE TOUNGES IS NOT BIBLICAL TRUE AFTER BIBLE, AND ITS RULES AND STANDARS THEN ITS FALSE DECEPTIVE OR OF EVIL SPIRITS OR EVIL MEN OR MADE UP.
Be blessed God bless all.
SvaraRaderaPray to be covered in Christ name and blood (and in all we do daily) for protection before seeing anything or reading anything daily and in all we do on a daily basis, and daily live Biblically, in daily repentive state in love for Christ, Gods Son.
Please only see whats listed and nothing more of uploaders, as they might be decieved in other things.
Vital see only the Biblically tested listed true things and videos:
Very important these 2 videos is biblically tested true regarding tongues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0eacRI27kc
And:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSBK0wa_Erk
Very important you not follow the youtube channel Heal And Restore Channel Sally Jane in anything else period:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZlOyGAPiTs
Be blessed God bless all.
All gifts valied forever thow.
SvaraRaderaVital:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Niy9YzEOuQY
And :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M_RUrKkpvY
And:
https://versebyversecommentary.com/2003/01/07/1-corinthians-142/
And Vital Must read heed all:
https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/matthew-henry-complete/1-corinthians/14.html
All gifts valied forever thow.
Be blessed God bless all.
Pray to be covered in Christ name and blood (and in all we do daily) for protection before seeing anything or reading anything daily and in all we do on a daily basis, and daily live Biblically, in daily repentive state in love for Christ, Gods Son.
SvaraRaderaPlease only see whats listed and nothing more of uploaders, as they might be decieved in other things.
Vital see only the Biblically tested listed true things and videos:
Vital:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e15Hqwtq78E
Vital:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqO653kDSzc
And Vital Must read heed all:
https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/matthew-henry-complete/1-corinthians/14.html
All gifts valied forever thow.
Be blessed God bless all.
Important:
SvaraRaderahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdZ0x8_NCX4
"For he who speaks in an unknown tongue language does not speak to men, but to God, for no man understands him. However in the spirit he speaks mysteries
1Cor 14:2"
Tongues is a real gift but even the unknown tongue is a real language to God that no man understands unless someone has the gift of interpertation.
It is a real language even to God and not gibberish many people that spoke in gibberish got revealed from true Christ this was deceptive in many cases and not the real gift of tongues.
Yahweh true of Bible Gods word 66 books and Spirit shown this here:
"We are witnesses today that there are many possessed persons in the churches. Some speak in tongues and even prophesy. Only those with the Spirit of God can discern these fellows. But we are here discussing the agents of Satan in the churches."
“Come out from among them? and be ye separate” 2 Cor 6 : 17
Eic "It was in 2008 that God revealed to me that the institutional church was ALREADY judged by Him and He told me, a minister of gospel of Jesus Christ since 1981, TO COME OUT OF HER. This woman is in error, deceived. For God revealed to me, a tongue talker, that THE TONGUES SPOKEN TODAY ARE NOT FROM HIM!!!!!! He said this in 2008 also."